and End Time Follies:    


Chicken Little Barbeque                               

If you have been a Christian for several decades you have gone through the "Chicken Little" guessing game for End Time Prophecy.  In 1987 it was the Jupiter effect, in 2000 it was Y2K and recently it is prophecies about the year 2012. When things did not turn out quite like expected, some lost much as they responded in drastic ways.  An entire congregation moved to a remote location in the southern mountains as a safe haven, selling homes, quitting jobs and waiting for the rapture or the hardship of the tribulation. Less drastic, people have stored guns and food, made underground bunkers or carelessly ran up credit cards, canceled life insurance policies and trusted that the rapture would soon come.  Many others who simply trusted the many teachers on radio and television or favorite authors who claimed these signs as urgent and true, were disappointed, but life went on. This was my experience which I believe reflected the majority of my generation at this time.

 Deaf ears from the Barbeque, yet the Band plays on;

Now, many "veteran" Christians in my generation have turned a deaf ear to the hope of Christ's coming because we have a, " been there done that" attitude.  A younger generation has not experienced this kind of let down, but I believe they may be set up for the same thing if not careful.

Today, there still exists a cottage industry on prophecy seminars, prophecy books and DVD's, prophecy magazines and websites offering survival food and equipment with the latest greatest revelations. The many popular prophecy teachers seem to adjust their notes, back peddle a bit and go on as if nothing was ever wrong, and certainly no accountability on their part for ever being wrong. They continue selling, teaching and speaking the same old assumptions, making adjustments and updates with a large following that keep listening and buying which keeps them in the business.

If you dare go against some of this current, it is almost called heresy! I know because I do go against many currents in this fast flowing stream and will continue to do so because I am following Jesus, not man made assumptions. I do not mean to be inflammatory by such a bold statement but there has been much damage done in the name of the Lord and it needs to be addressed. This end time folly needs to be halted before there are more disappointments or at worse case scenario, we miss many events because of assumptions that have turned into doctrines which at best are only a guess.

The Hope of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

Please don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong in having a hopeful expectation for the second coming of Christ. We are told there is a reward for those who long for his appearance. In spite of all that I have seen and experienced in the way of foolish behavior, I still believe I may be alive to see the end of this present age. Yes, The re-establishment of Israel as a Nation started the clock heading toward this end. However, how fast the hands are moving and where they are is simply up for speculation and speculation only. This is where balance and caution should be exercised by all. It is only human to want to figure out a mystery and most people love a mystery. Prophecy fulfills in most of us, this need to seek and discover. To some it can actually become obsessive when it becomes predominate over everything else. To some it becomes addictive where they just can't get enough information, books, seminars and equipment. Patience, that thing we all know and agree that we all need to exercise more of,  but then usually don't, is the starting point.

Knowing how we perpetuate this cycle, is how we can stop it.

The point of this writing is not to claim right or wrong, it is to challenge you to be wise and watch with a hopeful expectation of His coming again, without acting out of emotion and impulse.  So much of prophecy needs to set itself on a wait and see balanced attitude.  Many times we become our own worst enemy by our own human nature.

If the Bible teaches us noting else about prophecy, it is the fact that unconditional prophecies are never fully known in detail until after the fact or progressed to the point where man cannot interfere and mess things up. Man's nature is to personally involve ourselves to either stop or help out events depending on our opinion of what is right or wrong, good or bad.

 God does not need our help as Peter found out when Jesus told his disciples that he would go to the cross. Peter's first reaction was to try and prevent that from happening. Jesus responded by commanding Satan to get behind him. That is human nature at it's worst/best, and that is the problem.  Prophetic events will be progressive and our knowledge will counter that progression on a need to know basis through the various means of revelation by men of God who are moved by God's Holy Spirit. This includes yourself as well as others who are teaching, preaching and serving in other prophetic gifting. And that is where patience comes into focus. Sometimes we just have to wait and see, sometimes we have to read all the pages in between, and cannot jump to the end to know ahead of time.

In a box to go please

 Another human element is that we want or even need everything to be tied up in a neat complete package. in order to give us the respect and authority on issues, we think we have to have an answer for. In this process we may at times over step ourselves and fill in the blanks of what has been revealed to us with assumptions, logical as they may seem, they are still man made attempts to fill in the blanks. These teachers (I will include myself here) as honorable and Godly as their intensions and motivations may be, are still just people as you and I. We are all subject to the same weakness of our flesh, and subject to missing the mark. Everything by everybody needs to be scrutinized and prayerfully verified by the scriptures. When you couple that with the fact that most of us are either too busy or just plain too lazy to do our own research. It is far easier to be spoon fed by someone we trust than to spend the time doing our own research. It is not a sign of disrespect to your favorite teacher to check him out, it is scriptural. It is your duty to not be a blind follower. In Acts 17:10, the Beraens were noble because they searched daily in the scriptures to verify what the Apostles spoke.  A true teacher would desire to be scrutinized by their students. This can be a good distinction between someone motivated by ego or the Holy Spirit of God.

Our Responsibility

Our ultimate dependency has to be on our own personal relationship with the Lord and our obedience to the more mundane things of everyday life. How is God going to tell you prophetic things on a global scale if you are not willing to listen to him on the small things in your own life? We should act as adults in Christ not little children, we take responsibility for our own relationship and not depend on taking the easy way out and letting the "experts" do it for us. Believe me there is coming a time when you will need to know the Word and the prompting of His Spirit because your assumed knowledge of End Time Events will not help, institutions and trusted people will not be able to help you, only the Lord will have the answers for you personally. That is the difference between religion or relationship.

 So you think you got it all figured out?

Again this has nothing to do with proving my way or idea is right and the traditional is wrong. Much of what I am going to share I believe was revealed to me by the Lord, but hey, some of it might be speculation as I am not perfect, I am just a human filter and imperfect. The fact is that much of these events have not happened yet so no one knows for sure.  I just want to challenge you not to be so comfortable in assuming the traditional is right and we know it all and have it figured out. This is what the Jewish leaders did as they instructed the one who was the answer to all their hopes. and said, "We know that when Messiah comes he will deliver us from the Romans" and yada yada yada they rambled on, telling Jesus what the signs of the Messiah was all about. How vain and ridiculous it must have looked as they lectured the very creator of all things without even recognizing who he was, Their assumed knowledge put him on a cross. We in our vain confidence think we have all of the end time events all figured out and I say we do not. I also say that though we won't put Jesus again on a cross we will make the same mistakes again and fail to see the times as they are really happening. This is where in spite of man made doctrine, Jesus by His Spirit, can set us straight, when the knowledge is needed, if we have eyes to see and ears to hear Him, not institutions, teachers and the many assumptions offered.  





The Rapture of the church is a doctrine which states that there will come a time when Jesus will come to take all true believers and remove them from the earth. First there will be a resurrection of the dead in Christ and then all who believe in Christ as Born Again believers will be changed and taken up to heaven. Here are the most popular scriptures most often quoted to reveal this rapture idea.

 "For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark,  And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come." Matt 24:38-42 (KJV)

 "Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,  In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed." 1 Cor 15:51-52 (KJV)

 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.       1Thes 4:16-17 (KJV)

The Rapture is real

The actual word rapture is not found in the Bible, however it is just a name describing the event. The actual word caught up is used to describe this event which is real. It is rather obvious that this catching away will happen. It will be sudden, in a moment, at a shout from the Lord and the blowing of the trump. The dead in Christ first rise and then believers alive at his coming will be changed and taken. Most all evangelical Christians agree that this event is literal and will happen someday. Just when it will happen is where the controversy  begins.

Various Doctrines

There are several ideas on this. The most popularly accepted one is called the Pre-Tribulation Rapture. There is another idea called the Mid Tribulation Rapture and another called the Post-Tribulation Rapture. A more recent one is called the Pre-Wrath Rapture. These ideas are centered around another end time doctrine called the great Tribulation period which is supposed to last for seven years leading up to the physical return of Jesus.

The Pre-tribulation rapture doctrine first had it's appearance around the fourth century. It was rather an obscure doctrine and not widely accepted. It was not until the turn of the 19th century that it became popular in the Church. The church that carried this doctrine included trying to date the return of Christ along with some other spurious ideas. When their predications failed, most of these doctrines were dropped by the church. By this time the pre-tribulation rapture doctrine took on a life of its own and became popular with many other groups. Today it has become the unquestionable truth.  My oldest son was denied membership into a church because he did not believe in this doctrine. The Rapture ready website, rates Bible teachers upon their beliefs in the pre-tribulation rapture calling those that do not accept this doctrine as confused or even a heretic. This is part of the end time folly that needs to stop.

Search for yourself

When I first became a Christian, I was told of this Pre-tribulation rapture doctrine and typical of myself I searched the scriptures to find it. In spite of popular beliefs, I'm still searching because the one doctrine I do not see about the Rapture is the pre-tribulation one. If I am to take the Word for what it says, in about four scriptures, it becomes obvious what is being said and what is not being said. This doctrine is not essential to ones faith and should not be taken so serious as to cause such division that exists today. Believers in the Pre-tribulation doctrine seem more intense and defensive about this doctrine than the others do with theirs, and it does make me wonder why? Why is there such passion and such intense emotion that seems to be attached to this doctrine? Getting past this emotional reaction of defense, Let's examine a few details from the Bible that will give us some absolute parameters to work within.

So what does the Bible say?

The Sound of the LAST trump, a beginning point.                                               The sound of a trumpet is mentioned in 1 Thessalonians 4:16 and 1 Corinthians 15:52 in reference to this catching away.  Details are always significant in the Bible and cannot be ignored just because we may not like their implication. One such often ignored detail by believers in the Pre-tribulation rapture is the LAST Trump that is mentioned by Paul in 1Corinthians 15:52.             

" In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."  1 Cor 15:52 (KJV)

While 1 Thessalonians only says at the sound of the trump, last trump is included in the above scripture. Last Trump may have a significant detail that gives us a window of time to when this happens. It is not mentioned to be ignored, it is a detail we have to deal with.

...that day shall not come except

The Thessalonians were not much different than many of us today. Upon hearing and understanding the soon return of Jesus and the coming rapture, they stopped doing many of their daily routines in life in anticipation of the soon return of Christ and the Rapture. In context, Paul is reminding them of an order of events that must happen first before the Rapture or return of the Lord will happen. This is the whole point of this text so the details are rather important for us to consider and not ignore.

" Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;"  II Th 2:3 (KJV)

Very plain and clear in all of it's simplicity, looking at the sentence structure alone, Paul states that there are two events that must happen first before return of the Lord and the rapture.

1. a falling away

2. the man of sin is revealed.

Regardless if you believe the day of the Lord is in two parts or one (that is another debate used by Pre and Post tribulation believers) does not really matter here. Whatever way you look at it, these two other events have to happen first.

The Falling Away

Anyone armed with a concordance can look up the Greek word for falling away to get a full meaning and intent of this word. In spite of this ease, this text has been twisted and maligned by those who do not like what the real intent is and even try to reverse it's meaning. Apostasia means literally to stand apart or away. It also has the slant to it as a defection or betrayal. We derived our English word apostate from this. It certainly does not mean in any way shape or form, a catching away, and yet there are some who try and claim this as the rapture. A very well known figure has tried to pass this one off unchallenged by others but why?  His claims are not defensible in any way but as a beloved teacher of the Word nothing is brought into accountability perhaps out of respect or fear of what would happen at such a challenge.

The contextual use of this word indicates that this defection or falling away is not Born Again Christians who leave the faith, these are people who have always stood apart and away from the truth. They are religious people without the grounding and actual relationship with God. Something causes them to depart and leave toward something different or new. The only gathering that could be indicated by this word is a negative gathering toward a lie, thereby making them a traitor to what they once intellectually believed. This word used anywhere else has no positive connotation, only a negative one. This negative event must happen first, it is a large defection from the God of the Bible toward something else. That is sign number one as revealed by Paul.

The Man of Sin Revealed.

Sign number two is the fact that this man of sin shall be revealed. The revelation will not come from some learned teacher or a prophets declaration. This revealing we are further told in the context of Paul's letter to the Thessalonians will be as he declares himself as God in some public way. This announcement will be with signs from the heavens and lying wonders. I address this in detail as defined by other experts of Biblical language in the Mystery of Iniquity section. The startling appearance in the heavens will bring a moral message contrary to the Bible. It will be this "trigger" event that will allow the Holy Spirit to make God's people realize who he is. it will also be at the antichrist's own opportune moment. In other words, he will have other political, religious and social systems orchestrated to prepare his introduction.

The ending point

So far we have a beginning point with two events that must happen before the rapture. Can the Bible also give us an ending point? Is there something that will happen that we will not be apart of? I believe in the same context of what Paul is trying to convey to the Thessalonians he gives us that clue. To ease their anxieties, Paul on two occasions in context to this day assures them that they are not appointed to the Wrath of God. That is the ending point

"For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,"    1Thes 5:9 (KJV)
"And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come." 1Thes 1:10  (KJV)


Our ending point is at the Wrath of God which we are not appointed to and what we are delivered from.

Now we have a starting point, the sound of the last trump, we have two events, a falling away and the man of sin to be revealed, and an ending point, the wrath of God. Now if we have any text in the Bible that could give us a chronological order to these end time events, we should expect to find this order there. This would be the proverbial smoking gun to the whole matter.

The Book of Revelation a Chronological order

The book of Revelation is a series of visions given to John by the Lord on the island Patmos in the late first century around 90AD. Most evangelicals agree in the literal interpretations within this book by the use of symbolism that is consistent throughout the rest of the books in the Bible. Most evangelicals also agree that these visions are also in a chronological progression.

Linear/ eternal transitions

There is another thing typical of the book of Revelation that happens that not many are aware of. There is an overlapping or backing up of events as the reader is taken from the earthly realm into the heavenly realm. The transitions are easy to detect once you are aware of them. It is also important to realize there is a  difference of perception from the linear earthly and the eternal heavenly realms. It would be like looking at a parade going by while standing on a street corner. You would view the progression by remembering what has gone buy, viewing what is in front of you and anticipating what is to come. However, someone in a helicopter hovering above could view the entire parade as one single event. This analogy can best explain the difference in perception from the linear as compared to the eternal . Understanding this, transitions that exist in the Book of revelation, begin to make all the sense in the world.

Finding the Rapture in Revelation

Our starting point would be the sounding of a last trumpet. This is found in Revelation 11:15 when the seventh Angel sounds the last of the trumpet judgments. Immediately, the scene goes from an earthly one to a heavenly one where events that are in the final conclusion are described in the past tense.

" And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever." Rev 11:15 (KJV)

The progression continues in the heavenly realm to include the day of judgment. At this point the heavenly temple of God is opened to find an ark of testimony just below it. The reader is then directed to view  into this ark of His testimony. It now becomes very important to understand just what the "Ark of His testimony" is. 

" And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail." Rev 11:19 (KJV)

In the Old Testament, the ark of the covenant was the box or chest that contained the ten commandments which was the law between God and Mankind. Here in the temple of God in heaven, this ark contains God's testimony. This would be Jesus Christ and His Church as directed by the Holy Spirit of God. What we view then as we look upon this ark is the entire earthly progression of the church beginning with the birth of Christ and ending where we are at in heaven, the rapture, just before the last seven plagues filled with the wrath of God takes place. The next three Chapters are a review of God's testimony which is Jesus Christ and His Church. We are in a sense ,backing up to witness this testimony. 

Understanding this change in perception will explain the common mistake that many make by simply looking at Revelation 11:15 as the last trumpet, and thinking, "ok good, we are gone right here," and then looking at the later Revelation 13 where the rise of the beast , the mark and the worship of the image comes into play with the additional thought, " Whew! this is later than chapter 11 so we must be gone and don't have to deal with it." That is wrong when you take into consideration the context and surroundings of linear and eternal, in this testimony of God. In proper context and surroundings, we find what we would expect to find by the other scriptures, a progression of order of certain events. We have the last trumpet, we have the rise of the Beast, the falling away worship of the image and then in Revelation 14:14,15 The harvest of the Earth, or the rapture and right after that the wrath of God..

" And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.  And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.  And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped." Rev 14:14-16 (KJV)

This text of scripture can only be describing the rapture of God's church, the ending of God's testimony on earth. The "earth was reaped", is in direct confirmation to the parable of the wheat and tares of Matthew 13:24-30 and 37-43. God's people are taken off the earth and the "vine of the earth" or tares are gathered for punishment which is the fullness of the wrath of God. We have found the rapture in a progression of events just where we would expect to find it, at the sound of the last trumpet after the falling away and the man of sin is revealed in Rev 13 and just before the wrath of God is poured out on the world.

" And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God."  Rev 14:19 (KJV)

The beginning of the 15th chapter begins another heavenly vision describing the wrath of God upon those that remain. So whatever you want to call this, it would appear that the pre-wrath rapture is truly what the Bible tells us. We will be around for Satan's wrath but not God's wrath.

So Why the Intensity of emotion attached to this Pre-Tribulation Doctrine.

I truly believe this doctrine is gong to be used by the enemy, Satan. In a same but opposite pattern, he will have his own fake rapture that will include UFO's and New Ager's that disappear. Evangelical born again Christians are left behind. This action, happening before the real event ,will deceive the entire world and turn the tables on the church making good seem bad and evil seem good. In the Global Conspiracy section, I give full details of this possible plan. If the Church is inflexible believing in a Pre-Tribulation rapture only, they may be very confused by these fake events. Because of the presentation of the Pre-Tribulation doctrines shown in movies and books most people not even Christian have a basic understanding of this doctrine which will only help cement this deception in their minds. Those who are flexible with this and other end time doctrines will be the first to see through this lie and help others during this time of great confusion..

Again I do not share this with you to tear down tradition. I am one who is perhaps more traditional in some ways . I go to a service that is more conservative and traditional than the contemporary ones offered at my church. It is perhaps my age but I also enjoy the old fashioned songs and simpler form of worship as opposed to the contemporary professional displays of today. So this is not some kind of hobby for me. I do not take pleasure in doing this but the scriptures are very clear when you allow them to say what they mean.


Foundations and substance

There are assumptions, and guesses about the character, actions and identity of the Antichrist that have found their way into Christian eschatology as doctrine without any scriptural backing or support. These have become accepted assumptions passed down for many decades that are now common knowledge without anyone making a challenge to them. We will center our search around one such myth but in this lengthy look at scripture, we will address many other shared assumptions that do have other ways of looking at them. Since many aspects are intertwined we will be addressing the ones that are somewhat related to the political assassination myth and other related events which surround it. The Assassination Myth tries to explain the attempt of Satan through the Antichrist to extrapolate part of the gospel process of death and resurrection. I believe the Bible goes even further, to describe a pattern in the same but opposite, that imitates the entire gospel formula, including a false promise of everlasting life, an unholy empowerment of the Antichrist message by his followers, as a Satanic Pentecost. and of course the third day resurrection. By examining some well known scriptural references to this event we can separate myth from truth and even get a different perspective also backed by scripture, than what we think we know and perhaps new light on some events past, that we might have already missed. 

The  Assassination  Myth

 One such myth is the assassination of the Antichrist. It has been popularized by several Christian films about the end times and written in many books as a fact. The myth goes that when the Antichrist comes, three and a half years into his rein of power, he is shot in the head and dies, three days later, he comes back to life, thereby being the event that makes it known to Bible believing Christians that he is the Antichrist. This example is actually a good guess based on logical assumptions, but not on the Word of God.

Same but Opposite an Established Pattern

Antichrist means the same but opposite. In other words this person would be a Messianic figure but he would be the opposite of the real thing or a negative counterpart. In this concept then, it is assumed that the death and resurrection as Jesus experienced at his first appearance, would be imitated in the same way  by the Antichrist. No where does it come right out and prophetically state this in reference to the Antichrist.

There are several scriptures that would appear to allude to this chain of thought. However you have to take into account all other scriptures that pertain to the same subject of the Antichrist, in order to get the whole picture. Even the many scriptures that most agree are talking about this end time person are not addresses as such. This is a pattern in itself, as the scriptures describe the prophetic actions of the Messiah, but are not labeled or addressed as such. This for some, only creates more controversy and debate. However, in what might seem to be something very complicated, the confusion is cleared up because we do have established patterns that make the way for us.

 Many scriptures because of contextual use are obviously talking about a future someone with a mission or task. This is echoed in the many scriptures about  Jesus as the Messiah as well as an individual as the Antichrist. This becomes a safe pattern which you can follow. In doing this, there are several scriptures that allude to the assassination idea. We will now take a look at these scriptures. 

 "And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast."                                                             Rev 13:3 (KJV)

 "And he exercised all the power of the first beast before him, and caused the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed."                      Rev 13:12  (KJV)

" And deceived them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live."                                                 Rev 13:14 (KJV)

From these three scriptures we are given some important details.  We have a head with a wound that is deadly, healed and caused by a sword. Understanding these details and descriptions are not stand alone as we need to understand a few other scriptures that are describing the same objects and or events. The first scripture is describing a beast as a combination entity which includes several different aspects of it. The keys to understanding these aspects is found in Revelation 17:9-14

Empires and their Leaders

The book of Daniel overlaps many of the prophetic visions of Revelation. In Daniel however Beasts are only describing nations. Here in the book of Revelation both nations and individuals are described as beasts. There are transitions and they are detected by sentence structure and use of words. To some this can be difficult but context will clarify the differences. This text is vital in understanding the heads of the beast.

7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.   Rev 17:7-14  (KJV)


I don't want to stray off too much but I have to include here that the woman is a false religious system called the whore of Babylon and she is described in the beginning of this chapter. She is riding on this beast with seven heads and ten horns. We are told that the seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits upon. It has been long accepted for over a hundred years or more that this was the seven hills surrounding the Vatican in Rome. However, this is a guess that 100 years ago seemed solid but today , there are and need to be other viable options supported by the scriptures.

There are other ways to look at this same text but options are rarely given and many people do not even know there are other options. A consistent symbolic use in the Bible refers to mountains as any fortification and in particular nations as an empire. (See, Ps 30:7 Isa2:2, Dan 2:35,Jer 51:25,Zech 4:7) This context could be referring to the progression of seven kingdoms that existed at different times in history. (Basically the same religious system existed in everyone of these empires in one form or another, which would be the woman who sits upon these kingdoms)

This is even supported by the next statement in context here. There are seven kings, five are fallen, means that five of the seven king's are past history. One is, which was the Roman Empire of Domitian in the time John was writing this vision down on the island of Patmos. Then the angel goes on to describe some very important details about the future coming King. When he comes it is a very short reign. The beast that was and is not, is the eighth or final leader that will face himself off against the Lord himself. These Empires are described by the interpretation of Nebuchadnezzar's dream by the prophet Daniel. Click here to take a look click here

 He is described in the first person noun which can only mean a person not a kingdom. In context we are still talking about kings. In this text he is one of the seven prior King's that was, is not and yet is. This can only mean one thing based on the original Greek. He was alive as one of the seven leaders, died and came back alive again to rule the eighth final kingdom. This important fact gives us a slightly different picture of this final king. We have to review a bit to clear the air.

As described in Revelation 13:3, We have a head of a beast with a deadly wound that is healed. It is further described in Revelation 13:14 that this fatal head wound was by the sword. This latter addition could be very misleading as "wound by the sword" was a cliché common to that time period simply meaning something that happened during a war or in battle. Since in that time, the common way to die in battle was by the primary battle weapon, the sword, this common shared knowledge was understood by this cliché . It would be like saying someone was lost at sea. The implication by this statement would mean a death by drowning. Understanding this word use, the actual cause of death could be a more modern means, such as a bullet to the head but it most defiantly means this wound would be during a war or in battle.

Wartime Death not a Political Assassination

While there is no mention of anything like an assignation, in the scriptures, there is a mention of a death during a wartime situation in reference to the Antichrist and with very similar language to that of the Messianic prophetic scriptures about the death of Jesus by the Roman leadership in Dan 9:27.

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" And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined." Dan 9:25-26

About the Antichrist

" But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps. But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many. And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him."        Dan 11:43-45 (KJV)

World War II in the Bible Another Same but Opposite Pattern

This scenario should seem very familiar to any history buff. We have a battle field taking place in northern Africa with a sudden withdrawal because of threatening news from the North(England) and an Eastern front(Russia). The retreat is one that creates a great wrath by the Antichrist which was known as a "scorched earth policy" of total destruction. Because of this two front war, things begin to go bad quick. The same thing happened in WWI but some of the further details clearly indicate that this is the scene of WWII.

The next verse has a New Testament interpretive value not identified by anyone that I know of and because of this, the text is not understood for what it is saying or in the proper time period. I give a detailed understanding in America in Prophecy and The Antichrist sections on my site.

 He shall plant, means that he, the Antichrist, is going to establish something, somewhere as part of a plan, even a contingency plan as things are going wrong and very bad for him.

What he is planting, is answered next. The tabernacles of his palace. In the Greek here, tabernacle literally means a tent or the residents within the tent or dwelling, this dwelling further defined as his palace or supreme place of importance. These are the occult secret makers, and keepers of the secrets of the 3rd Reich. The very essence of the infrastructure of Nazi Germany that was taken as the spoils of war.

Where are they taken? This is where the most misunderstood section comes into play. All Bible scholars seem to think that the glorious mountain refers to Jerusalem or Israel as Mt Zion. However, neither are between any seas. We have a couple of uses of Zion being the tribe of Judah, Ps 78:68 and anywhere the people of God are congregated Ps 74:2. The church is also referred to as a nation 1Pe 2:9.  Mountains as I have stated earlier, can mean nations not just a literal mountain. One that is glorious can be defined as a nation made clear or clean. If you cross reference this with Isaiah 55:5 and Matt 21:43 you have sound scriptural support for a reference to America which is between two seas.

This would mean that the projects paperclip and the Gehlen organization that brought in over 2,000 Nazi scientists, engineers and intelligence officers into America to fill top positions in Industry, Military and Academia was planned and prophesized. Under the guise of the New Age movement, which is a spiritualized and slightly Christianized form of Theosophy, but still occult at its roots, now sweeps over our whole country.  It would also be our undoing much the same way it happen before to Rome. What they could not win on the battle field has been won by a change in our spiritual beliefs. No longer Theosophy based on a national identity and racial bloodline but a slight twisting with an offer to whosoever will may come. Yes, this is another same but opposite pattern imitated by Satan through the Antichrist.

As Rome thought they were finally putting an end to their enemy Israel in 70 AD by sacking, burning and destroying everything, they created for themselves the same situation. The Jewish Christian believers remembered what Jesus warned them about in Luke 21:20. They fled before the destruction came right into Rome and her eastern provinces. What was once a message and religion based on a national identity (Israel) and specific bloodline (The Hebrew) is now offered to whosoever will by the Gospel of Jesus Christ.  By their influence and a supernatural empowerment of the Holy Spirit, the spread of Christianity transformed the Roman empire vast enough to eventually become the Holy Roman Empire. This empire was a corruption of Christianity but nevertheless they were forever changed from within. This is the exact parallel of the same but opposite that happened at the end of WWII. 

The Wartime Death

  He comes to his end and no one shall help him. This is a death during a war of one who fits the description as a fierce military leader. (Rev 6:2) This was also an empire that lasted only a short time of 12 years to be exact. This empire was based on occult and mythological beliefs that have their roots in Ancient Babylon where the woman sat upon. When you combine this text with another text of scripture describing this legendary figure the Antichrist, it becomes almost embarrassingly obvious who this person could be and what time frame is being spoken of. 

The Rest of the Story
" And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand."  Dan 8:23-25 (KJV)

I will cover some of the details but more can be found in America in Prophecy section and The Antichrist sections about this text of scripture. This man will have a look that would give anyone chills. He would have a workable knowledge of the Occult. This would be a physics that applied, would produce technology. He would be supernaturally empowered by Satan and his minions. He shall destroy wonderfully means some horrific way that would always be remembered such as a global war that left 50 million people dead. This destruction would include rich and powerful people as well as a destruction of powerful leaders, scientists, artists and any that would impact and lead mankind foreword. Added to this list would be an extermination of the Jewish people.

Where this text mentions, "the holy people", many study Bibles footnote this as a better rendering meaning , people in the sense of descendants of the holy ones. This is a veiled way of saying Jews but after 70 AD when Israel rejects Jesus as their Messiah. It was at that time, the glory of God departed from Israel as Titus destroyed Jerusalem and destroyed the temple. The text then concludes with the Antichrist's death as he faces the prince of princes. This mention is alluding to Michael the archangel who was Israel's protector in Old Testament times but now with a New Testament value he is the protector of the Church and I believe any nation where the church may be gathered or as Jesus put it:

" Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof."  Matt 21:43 (KJV)

All of this of course alludes to America. As the Antichrist stands up against the United States of America he is broken without help. This may have been fulfilled in a bunker in Berlin April 30th 1945 as allied troops invaded from the Northwest and East.

The beast that was and isn't and yet is, of Revelation 17, is a man who died went to the pit and ascends out of this pit as one of seven  prior rulers to lead the final beast empire kingdom. This clearly does not suggest a 3rd day resurrection in the form of a political assignation. It does however, suggest two different appearances by one man. This very significant verse in Revelation 17 has gone completely unnoticed until a Bible teacher from Grand Blanc, Michigan wrote the book The Sign. Robert Van Kampen expounds on this and other scriptures to show what is almost too obvious. I have even more evidence here on my site. All roads seem to return back to this group and their leader including every aspect of the UFO/Alien phenomena.

Two Appearances by One Man another Same but Opposite Pattern

 We seem to have two different profiles in the scriptures for the Antichrist as we do for the Messiah. We have the lamb of God and the Lion of Judah as two different appearances of Jesus. Jesus first comes to be the sacrifice and spiritual restoration as the lamb of God. At his second coming he will be as the Lion of Judah the returning King to physically reclaim and restore this world and it's nations to himself.

 In the same but opposite manner we have the Antichrist who came first as a military dictator who declared his own and became a sacrifice while attempting to take over physically. Upon his return the second time, he will be a smooth talking deceiver from a fortress of defense who will clandestinely create a world of false peace and unity with signs and wonders from the heavens. This attempt will be a spiritual movement that will encompass the whole world.

This next text describes the first death of the Antichrist and his decent into Hell. In a very rare condition which is met in this text, the Hebrew words are telling us that he is moving into the place of Christ's

“Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirs up the
dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their
thrones all the kings of the nations. All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art
thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us? Thy Pomp is brought
down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the
worms cover thee.” Isa 14:9-11 (KJV)

  The traditional understanding of this text is that of Satan’s fall, (from a pre-Adamic perception). Others see this as the eventual throwing of Satan into the “pit” at the end of the tribulation period and before the 1,000 year earthly rein of Christ.  However, by the specific language used here, this text suggests a mortal life once used up and descending into hell. It probably never occurred to anyone that the Antichrist would have two separate appearances and therefore some key words went unnoticed for what they could actually be saying.  This text of scripture is very obscure in its surface understanding but look at what happens by using these other correct variables for this text.

 “Hell from beneath is excited for you, to meet you at your coming: it wakes up the dead
for you, even all the chief ones of the earth; it has raised up from their thrones all the
Kings of the Nations. All they shall ask you, “Are you also become weak as we? Are you
become like us?” Your majesty and glory is brought with you down to the grave, and
the clamor of your spent life: The man is spread out into the place of Christ’s as
a covering.” Isa 14:9-11 (UJWV)

The variables are so dramatic you can take a look at their breakdown here XXX

This is why the Antichrist is called the man of sin and son of perdition. The terms here refer to the fact that he is the man excluded from salvation and destined for death. It is because this is the description of his second appearance. A dead man who came back to life to lead the final empire.

"The wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans 6:23

 This man received no such gift from God as he circumvented this rule . Cloning may be Satan's cheap imitation that could have been used to break God's Laws and give this second life.

... and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;  Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.   II Th 2:3-4 (KJV)

A Rebuilding of the Temple: A building or a Human shell of a body

Another interesting fact is that the word used here for temple is one used elsewhere as the inner most sanctum of the literal temple or what is known as the Holy of Holies. This same word however is also used by Paul  where he describes the human body as the current temple of God.

" What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?" 1 Cor 6:19 (KJV)

 So here is an interesting fact to consider. In a New Testament sense, could it be proper to consider that the temple the antichrist is sitting in is a cloned human body that is supposed to be dead, yet in it, he stands alive again? I think this definition is equally acceptable here. This different option considered, it would be important to remain flexible in doctrine and wait and see. It could mean that a rebuilt literal building may have nothing to do with any prophetic fulfillment here and certainly unless I or someone else voices this alternative, it could go by completely undetected. This perspective would not require a new building in Jerusalem, but rather the technology of cloning as an accomplishment to resurrect the human body as the temple

Biblical proof  of Cloning and Genetic Tampering 

Firstborn of the Dead

Jesus is described as the firstborn from the dead (Col 1:18) and the firstborn of many brethren. ( Rom 8:29) In the same but opposite pattern the Antichrist through technology may imitate this promise for himself and his own. Who would be his own, can be answered in several ways. Fallen angels, disembodied spirits commonly called demons, and also those who are followers of his who "take the mark" could be considered his own. This false promise of eternal life may be offered in some way to each group.

The Activity within Last Beast Empire

The scriptures indicate that for fallen angels and disembodied spirits, this is a form of escape from the coming judgment or so they think. (Job 26:4 Isa 26:13,14)) For humans not written in the book of life, this may be an offer from their leader to a false hope of eternal life. In any case, this form of genetic tampering is mentioned as an event that will exist in the last beast empire that the Lord destroys at his return. In Genesis 6 we see that a human/angelic hybridization took place just before the flood and was the actual reason for the flood. In Daniel 2 we see from Nebuchadnezzar's dream, it describes a return of this hybridization which takes place in the last beast empire.

" And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay."  Dan 2:43 (KJV

Most commentaries and Christian beliefs are that this mixture is a mixing of classes. The iron being the rich and the miry clay being the working class. They say that this is proof of a socialistic or communistic form of government. Perhaps in feudal times this outlook was acceptable to the educated who first tried to translate this text. But in today's society, this would never be acceptable as you come to understand what the Aramaic word for miry clay means. It literally means filth to be swept away from burnt clay of the potter. Not exactly what I would imagine our Lord would view the working class as. How this was ever made acceptable especially in modern times is unbelievable to me. Again we have a shared passed down belief that probably has not been re-examined by anyone in a very long time.

Now this is exactly the view God would hold to Satan's seed mixing with his own. Clearly this is what is being implied here. They shall not cleave one to another is also describing relationship as in Genesis 3, a man shall leave father and mother and cleave unto his wife. The same language is used here and it is safe to see that we are not talking about a failure of mixing but rather a mixing that is clinical in a laboratory rather than in a marriage like the events mentioned in Genesis 6. It is also perhaps, a mixing that is involuntary and forced by the Antichrist. The main theme of Alien Abductions is that of genetic hybridization of the human race. Here is a text that may be an encrypted way of alluding to this very thing.

Provided by the Antichrist

We unfortunately approach the scriptures with a Roman/Greek mindset however, the Bible was written by Hebrews from a Hebrew mindset which is quite different than our western one. In our mindset the scriptures are either literal or allegorical. In the Hebrew culture there were four levels of interpretation that could actually be overlapping like an onion skin. There is the p'shat, which is direct, simple and literal, the remez, which is a hint or alluding to, there is the darash which is a commentary or comparison, then we have the most mystical of the four, the sod, which is the deeply hidden and encrypted. With this understanding we can now look at this text.

"And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.  Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.  But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.
Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange (alien) god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain." Dan 11:36-39 (KJV)


The above scripture describes things the Antichrist will provide. Who he is providing it for, literally means an alien god. I thought that was almost an amusing play of words. Digging deeper, he is supplying more than just what the surface rendering holds. Certainly we have progressed above idol worship with offerings of gold, silver and such. Some have considered this as objects of national treasure and currency which certainly have good merit and makes more sense for a more progressive society. There is even another way of looking at this but you have to go back to the original Hebrew to bring out the potential of what might be encrypted here.

The word for Gold here, literally means "the shinning of Gold", The word for Silver literally means, a silvering or "a silver plating or covering", precious stones actually means "rare stony ground". and pleasant things means "things desired". Gold has always been symbolic as meaning deity or God. Silver has always been symbolic of redemption. rare stony ground can be the condition of an unregenerate heart or also a rare desert place.

 When you find this many words with such a pattern of different meanings, it could mean there is more going on here as an encrypted meaning that would only make sense when it needed to. As God told Daniel certain things would be shut up or sealed until the time of the end. I think we are in those times and a deeper meaning can be understood by some scriptures that would work as a hidden key to understanding.

This text could read out as, "He shall abundantly supply, the reflection of God, a redemptive covering, rare desert land and things desired."

Jesus  is described as the image of the invisible God (Col 1:15) We are said to be the image of Jesus (Rom 8:29) Therefore the image is like a reflection of God. Could there be something in the redeemed  which carries this reflection of God. Is there a genetic encoding in our DNA for our resurrected heavenly body? If so, could this be some genetic marker that is attempted to be synthesized? In the Old Testament, Cattle was used as a sacrifice for a redemptive covering. Today genetically, the closest match to human blood is bovine blood which can be used on humans in emergencies. Cattle slaughtering include the removal of sensory and sexual organs. (As a judgment from God, these are the very elements lacking in the current form of fallen angels. See the Grays section for more detail)  These organs are removed with laser precision, cut in between cells. In a same but opposite pattern cattle slaughtering may be a mining for resources that extrapolates the redemptive model set forth by God in the Old Testament.  There are also many rumors of secret bases in the deserts of New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and Colorado, where some of these activities are claimed to happen. I truly believe I was directed to this scripture to see how this alludes to something of a genetic tampering that is going on with abductions, cattle slaughtering and rumors of military secret bases. You will get this understanding further in the topical essay sections relating to the specific topics.

Your Defense Department at Work: The Abomination that makes Desolate

Another event that ties into the Antichrist is the Abomination that makes desolate. This brings us back to the temple that the Antichrist stands in, making his demand for worship as God. There is a rule that is taught in most Bible colleges called the rule of duplicity. Many times a prophetic event will be fulfilled in the time of the prophet who has spoken but it will have a replay also in a latter time. In this case we have an event that has happened twice and still awaits a third end-time experience.

A twofold witness and doubling emphasis.

An important part of Jewish Law stated that in the mouths of two or more witnesses, a thing is established.  Another pattern in Jewish culture is that when something was very important they would announce it twice such as Jesus telling Nicodemus about being born again, Jesus said, " truly truly" and then went on to explain. The emphasis on doubling the word was a Jewish way of saying listen up this is very important. When we have anything that has this kind of repetitiveness, it is also a means of emphasis or double witness, that this is also something very important.  Both the prophet Daniel and Jesus spoke of the Abomination that makes desolate. that happened close to their own time. Daniel 11:31and 12:11 and in Matthew 24:15. Both were similar, but to appreciate the full impact, let me explain what the traditional experience was for the average worshipping Jew.

Worship at the Temple

The Levite priest had to go through a cleansing ritual before he entered the inner sanctuary called the holy of holies. If the priest did not follow the proper procedures or had any  un-confessed sin in his life, he would drop dead upon entering this inner area. Tradition has it that, the temple servants would tie a rope around the leg of the priest just in case he died, they could quickly remove the body. When everything went right, the priest would take a lamb without spot or blemish and slaughter it upon the alter. Then a bright shinning light called the shekinah glory would emanate from the ark of the covenant and radiate throughout the entire temple, literally filling it with light. From the outer walls the rays would glow and radiate from the ramparts of the walls reaching out toward the heavens. This was God's method of telling all, that he was pleased with the sacrifice and his presence was there with them.

                                                                                           The Eastern wall of the temple in Jerusalem. The ramparts are the top highest portion of the structure which can easily be seen. Imagine the light shining off these ramparts into the heavens. This has been mocked by Satan twice, and a possible third time waiting as a literal or symbolic mockery. w                                                                                                               R                


The Mockery

 The Abomination of Desolation was a Satanic mockery of this procedure and also an indication that the presence of the Lord and his glory had departed from the Hebrew nation. In June 168B.C. Antiochus Epiphanes IV a Greek general committed the first desecration. He placed a statue of Jupiter in the Holy of Holies and slaughtered a pig upon the alter. He also placed stone idols upon the ramparts of the exterior walls. Instead of God's glory shining out from the walls, these idols were seen. This was a total mockery of Jewish worship and of their God.


     Jerusalem 168BC


In 70 AD Titus a Roman General placed a statue of Zeus in the Holy of Holies. The individual Roman units placed their flags upon the ramparts of the outer walls. Again this was a defiant act of mockery to all that was worshiped and considered sacred. Instead of the glory of the Lord shining out of the walls, the individual Roman units flags stood and replaced the light with their own glory. Again in mockery to the Jews and their faith.

Roman Banner

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Destruction of Jerusalem 70AD

The New Testament Temple

On the day of Pentecost, as promised by Jesus the Holy Spirit, as God's presence within mankind came upon the praying believers in the Upper Room. It was recorded that flames of fire was seen above each believer. This was the same Shekinah glory that used to come upon the Temple before the mission of Christ. In the Old Testament, the first initial dedication of each temple experienced a cloud of God's glory which descended upon or hovered over the temple. This was a one time experience as anything afterward, the Shekinah glory began from within the Holy of Holies between the Cherubim on the Ark of the Covenant and then radiated outward for all to see. This event was a symbolic type and traditional pattern to show that God was with man in the new temple, their own bodies.  Could the third Abomination of Desolation be duplicated in a symbolic manner following the New Testament pattern? The cloven tongues of fire seen above the believers was a one time experience. Christians can understand this thought, New Born believers, and other believers for various reasons and situations, can be so filled with the Holy Spirit, a shine can be sensed from their faces that can even change the atmosphere in a room. This is that same Shekinah glory coming from within to reflect without that confirms to all that God is within that believer. Now as before, the light is an inner one that reflects outward.



The Two Fold Warning

Paul speaks of the last Abomination of Desolation in 2Thess2:3,4. Now, as I said before, if there is a New Testament interpretive value to this last temple, there also exists a symbolic pattern that coincides with it. The antichrist who has circumvented God's laws, dies in his sins, and yet, he is back alive in a flesh and blood body, this action to God, is like the pig or pagan statue standing in the Holy of Holies. The outer walls ramparts are a special place. They represent the highest position of defense for any fort, or even the temple. Can this possibly allude to the fact that as The Antichrist becomes the firstborn of the damned, his reflected glory is as an army of idols which will come from the highest level of defense. Imagine this as a prophetic warning. The place that was to reflect the glory of God's grace and promises becomes corrupt from within only to produce an end time genetically controlled army of idols or an image of the beast. This being a reflection of Satan not of God, and a total mockery of all that is held sacred to the Christian and God. Yes there are other scriptures that continue that thought.

The Coming Master Race                                  

 The main purpose of "alien abduction" are for the mixing of the serpents seed with mankind to re-create the image proclaimed by Hitler as the “Master Race” Now with a repackaged Theosophy they are presented as Good Angel/Aliens with a new spiritual offer to mankind.
The prophet Isaiah at a time when the Philistines were gloating about a great victory gave this prophetic warning.

"Rejoice not thou whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for
out of the serpents root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying
serpent." Isaiah 14:29


Now once again on the surface this does not appear to be saying much that makes sense. By once again,
going back to variables in the original language with a 21st century outlook, a different picture may be
illustrated for us, and much more relevant for today. This could be a possible rendering:

“Rejoice not all of you Philistines, because the tribe of Israel (Dan) that punished you is
broken off, to pluck from the serpents soil, an extrusion of offspring, shining ones to
cover with obscurity the serpent." (UJWV, Unofficial Jim Wilhelmsen version)

The Philistines were the last group of people to have the remaining "seed" of the Giants or Nephilim
remain in their gene pool. They were the race of giants that existed in various tribes that God told the
Israelites to completely destroy. These were the same ones present before the flood and part of the reason
for it. Joshua and Caleb was instructed to destroy them while taking the promised land. They failed to finish the job, as a small band had escaped into the camp of the Philistines. This is where David fought the giant Goliath.
This amazing verse when re-examined, is telling us that from their interbred stock, containing this seed
of the serpent and the genetic stock of the serpent would come an extrusion of offspring. I have been told
that gene splicing could be described as a process of "extruding" the desired DNA from its source! From this
scripture we have a progression of generational development. From the serpent, or Gray, we have a spliced
hybrid a result of Gray/Human splicing. From sexual encounters of this hybrid with members of the human
race who have the genetic trace of the Nephilim, the modern day decedents of the Philistines, a refined
human-like "shell" is created for the Grays, and the disembodied spirits can slip into like a suit. In light of this
text, it would be important to know who the Philistines were.

 In Gen 10:14 they are referred to as descendants of Ham who were black. This was true in the third
millennium B.C. They were the original settlers, being peaceful agriculturalists of Hamatic descent. They were
uprooted by a belligerent maritime "sea people" who invaded and conquered the land from Capthor. (Crete).
These guys acted much like the later Vikings, and perhaps are one in the same. Amos 9:7 refers to the
Philistines from Caphtor.
The Capthorim in Isaiah’s time had long since been called the Philistines who occupied Philistia. They
were the Aryans, Indo-Europeans. On the temple of Rameses III in Medinet, a relief shows them to be tall
Hellenic-looking people. The name Philistine means “migratory”. Japheth, the eldest son of Noah was said
to be the first descendent of the White or Caucasian Race. It was said that God would enlarge Japheth and
he would dwell in the tents of Shem and Canaan would be his servant. This shows a people on the move with
a genetic tenancy to invent, conquer and dominate. Being the firstborn of the human race they would hold
"Legal" birthright of any inheritance. I say this only in the sense of Satan being a legal adversary trying to
stake a claim, he would naturally use the firstborn in a legal sense, as well as a biological one for certain
genetic traits. Especially when the promised spiritual redemption and "chosen" came from the descendants
of Shem.

One of Histories biggest mysteries is what happened to the Philistines. When the Assyrians came down and took the ten northern tribes captive, much of the tribe of Dan left in fulfillment of a prophecy about their tribe. (Deut 33:22). They may have even left with their next door neighbors the Philistines. As sophisticated as the Philistines were, they had no written language. Their entire civilization seemed to disappear off the face of the earth. Without a written language to track them nothing of there whereabouts can be made certain.  Another culture, the Villanovans seemed to appear in Northern Europe (Germany to be exact) at about the same time. They had the same kind of proficiency in working with iron, a Mediterranean style shipbuilding and religious and cultural traits similar to the Philistines. At the same time a group settled in Ireland and Denmark which had all the traits and even names indicating the presence of the tribe of Dan. This brings our story to a full circle which makes much more sense to recent history as well as many prophetic scriptures. This connection cannot be verified but the circumstantial evidence is compelling and intriguing.  The Department of Defense went through major changes and restructuring from recruiting ex-Nazi intelligence agents from the Gehlen organization. The OSS became the newly formed CIA comprised with almost half ex-Nazi officer agents. A new building was made to facilitate this change The Pentagon. The Philistine nation was famous for it defense structure of placing a five city fortification called the Pentapolus. Just a coincidence?

I believe an army is under construction. The warrior traits of Cain (See the Two Seeds and the Hollow earth for more detail) and the physical attributes, as the root of the serpent are what they desire. This strain would be stronger in the firstborn of the human race. This is why there is both legal and biological preference placed upon the whites. It is why we have the crazy idea of the Ayran Master race projected by a Messianic figure Adolf Hitler and those who believed these occult based lies who followed up on them. The Antichrist then becomes the firstborn of the dead for his own to duplicate the same for them. All of this is done in the same but opposite pattern. We will discuss more on the coming of this Army of Darkness in the Image of the Beast further down on this page.

For now there is still one more event that is the after math of the death of the Antichrist and that is the supernatural empowerment of his followers to proclaim their New Deal for mankind. The Anti-gospel The Age of Aquarius and the occult explosion. Rather than reproduce everything here click here for the story. Click here

Where is all of this going? An Army of Darkness from Hell. Our next subject is the image of the Beast and we will address this next. However in closing we need to realize that there is an entire extrapolation of everything God has or will do by the great imitator Satan.

If the scriptures are telling us that many end time events have already happened as much as 60 years ago and we missed it, and more events to come are not even addresses by the church, this should be a wakeup call for everyone. We with our preconceived ideas are no different than the Jews of the time when Jesus first came and it would appear we have made the same mistakes by our own vanity. I do not want to convince you that the last profile you just read about the Antichrist is something that should be made into doctrine. It should not, not until all is past and we know for sure. The healthiest safest and wise thing to do is to consider it with an open mind and wait and see. My whole point is to not be so inflexible and conclusive about future events.

I should conclude this Antichrist section with his second coming. We will make this a quick one but one thing to realize is that if Adolf Hitler is the one who was, isn't and yet is, he certainly will not come back with his hair combed backward, with a funny looking mustache in his little Nazi uniform.

In a time where some can control and manipulate genetics and if cloning is already possible, then he could look like anyone he wanted to and come from wherever he wanted to. His reemergence may be in the same but opposite of Christ. The Bible says that every eye shall see Christ and know who he is. In his case every eye will see but never know until he wants everyone to know. I believe when that day comes to stand in a building or make his global announcement the conditioning will be such that in his vanity, he will perhaps come out Old Testament Theosophical style in his uniform and all. But until then, we will have to wait and see. He could be anyone coming from anywhere. We do know, one other element that accompanies his reappearance will be...

Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders ,   II Th 2:9 (KJV)

Signs and lying wonders as commented by one of the top Ancient Greek scholars of today, Spiros Zodhiates Th.D., states that,  “ these two words do not refer to different classes of miracles, but to different qualities of the same miracle. Teras (wonders) is a miracle regarded as startling, imposing...frequently used elsewhere for STRANGE APPEARANCES IN THE HEAVENS.  Semeion (sign) a “miracle with an ETHICAL END and purpose. They are valuable not so much for what they are as for what they indicate.”

 His second coming will accompany a supernatural power which could include a higher form of technology gleaned from the occult and/or rumors of "Alien Technology" His second appearance will also be accompanied by signs and lying wonders. This literally means a sudden startling appearance in the skies bearing a message contrary to the God of the Bible.

This sounds very much like the whole UFO/Alien encounters many have claimed to experience. It is funny that the message all of these entities proclaim, is a form of Theosophy. This is the philosophical foundation for both the New Agers as well as the National Socialists Party. One has an Old Testament style Theosophical message based on a national identity and a certain bloodline. The other has a spiritualized New Testament version based on faith in a religious form of worship where man is the center of existence and transcends to be his own god. It is the same message now offered to whosoever will based on their belief in mankind not God.

This New message of a different Theosophy appears on the surface to be one of love tolerance and universal acceptance, when in fact this is the same but opposite veneer of the Holy Roman Empire and the changed gospel message. Old Testament Theosophy was an act of hatred against all but the "chosen". Now spiritualized into a false peace and love movement, the same core of hatred and exclusivity lurks behind it. The Holy Roman Empire had the veneer of being the "official church state" with a mission from God. Actual practice of the church/state government, was a pagan distortion motivated by greed and power of a rich elite few. The Hapsburgs of Germany was the invisible hand behind the Holy Roman Empire. Ten elite families today are the rich elite who were behind the 3rd Reich as well as the global agenda of a One World Order spearheaded by the United Nations and promoted by the US.  In spite of such deception there always remained a remnant of faithful followers within the Church. On the dark side of this there are a few who know they are dealing with the god of this world. Most however believe in this One World Lie and move toward it's goals. If you will not believe in the manifested truth, Jesus Christ and His word the Bible, you will believe the coming Big Lie. 

I hope I have shown enough scripture about the Antichrist to dispel the assassination myth and perhaps a few other guesses too. While I do believe what I have here was mostly revelation by God to me, I certainly do not want anyone to accept them as the only option. I just want to challenge you all to be more flexible and open to consider that we may not have all things prophetic figured out in a nice neat package. Many things are just guesses some good some real bad. We will get to some of the bad ones soon in other prophetic topics as I complete and post them. You can believe whatever you want about myself or the scenario I have just presented. If you got this far I have done my job the rest is up to the Lord and only time and the leading of the Holy Spirit will tell. At least you allowed yourself to be exposed to the ideas so someday it might all fit and make sense to what is going on around you.

Ancient Cultural Practices are a Type and Shadow of things to Come

The image of the beast has had a very early interpretation derived from ancient practices common to the ancient eastern world. Teraphims were figurines of various gods in human form commonly called household gods. These idols were abolished by several Hebrew leaders but they seem to have a hold on the people of Israel. They were used to secure an oracle as it was a common practice of the Babylonian Kings. It is from this Biblical recorded definition and use that through the ages of the church, it was thought that the False Prophet would someday bring back this practice and actually make these wooden or clay idols come to life and in a sense be like semi-animated spies. They would become the object of worship and those who refused would be ratted out by them. This definition remains pretty much the same even today. The image of the beast mentioned in Revelation 13 is used in the plural tense. Because of this use in context, Image of the Beast should actually be Images of the Beast as it does not mean one but many.                                                                    


" And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed." Rev 13:15 (KJV)

We need to upgrade and update our thinking

To have this remain as the primary understanding of this text of scripture is almost laughable and it shows the need to update or re-evaluate such interpretations in light of recent developments in technology. I have heard several ideas where this could include anything like holographic brains, artificial intelligence or cloning. In light of modern developments any combination of these could have much more merit than the traditional leftovers from another time. In spite of some recent good ideas, the total context however, may give us enough background that could define or narrow the parameters of speculation.

False Prophet as Provider of the Image of the Beast, Who or What is He?

In this next text we have the rise of one commonly called the False Prophet. There are some key details that not only tell us some things about this individual, they can also give details to just what he is doing. This becomes an important element of the story about the image of the beast as this is his agenda and product.

 "And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live." Rev 13:11-14 (KJV)

One key word here is another. The Greek word here allos has a very specific meaning. This is talking about a numerical difference not qualitative. In this sense, this would be another of the same kind. We know the prior beast, as I hope I have shown, is a dead man come back to life and here we have the Greek words telling us that here is another of the same kind! The false prophet is one like the Antichrist not only in the role they play but in every detail. This is what the original language is telling us by the use of the Greek word for all. The word for exercise means to continue to develop a supernatural power. This then is something the Antichrist started in his first appearance that is continued on by the false prophet. My mind thinks more of science and technology not magic. This could very well be the gleaned Nazi technology further developed by our own country as an agenda led by the false prophet.

  Another fact we were told in Isaiah 14 was that the first beast was spread out to assume a position like Christ's. This is alluding to the position and role as the firstborn of the dead but could it also mean that the first beast is spread out to assume a dual role as two individuals? This could be what we are being told here. The fact that the second beast comes like a lamb but speaks as a dragon concludes this same but opposite pattern of a Christ like figure..

 Fire from the Sky

The second beast is directing the whole world to worship the first one. This is being accomplished by bringing down fire from the sky or heavens in the sight of the first beast and the population of the earth. The results of this public display is that everyone who is not God's becomes deceived and swayed over to their agenda. There is another interesting thing about the word for fire here. The Greek word pur has a wide variety of meanings centered around the most general  meaning of a literal fire. Traditionally, the Bible interpreters have left the understanding to remain the most general one, that of a literal fire that comes from heaven. How logical does this seem to you or anyone for that matter in our time today. I have to admit before I was told to start scrutinizing and reexamining these prophetic scriptures, I always had the vision of some wizard like person with a staff calling down lightening. But really in today's world, how is that gong to convince or deceive anyone. In our world of science and technology we have a vanity of our own accomplishments that make us far too sophisticated for such parlor tricks.                                     

                                                                                                                                                                  Traditional Imagery



Some have tried to update the idea that the fire coming down from heaven or skies as being nuclear bombs. Although this is a better understanding of a more modern method of fire from the skies, it does not properly address the purpose of the event. The scriptures are not telling us that the people are being forced into submission by any power, they are being convinced by the experience. Americans especially are not going to be intimidated but provoked to wrath by force. I think 911 proves that point. This event has to be or include much more than that and the Greek wording here does support much more. From a lengthy list of possibilities, here are some alternatives or variations for the use of pur that could be used in this text. See for yourself what may make more sense.                                            


1. pur ^4442^, (akin to which are No. 2, pura, and puretos, "a fever," Eng., "fire," etc.) is
used (besides its ordinary natural significance):

(b) of the divine judgment, testing the deeds of believers, at the judgment seat of Christ
<1 Cor. 3:13> and <15>

(c) of the fire of divine judgment upon the rejectors of Christ, <Matt. 3:11> (where a
distinction is to be made between the baptism of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost and the "fire" of
divine retribution; <Acts 2:3> could not refer to baptism): <Luke 3:16>:

(d) of the judgments of God at the close of the present age previous to the establishment
of the kingdom of Christ in the world,
<2 Thes. 1:8; Rev. 18:8>:

(e) of the "fire" of Hell, to be endured by the ungodly hereafter, <Matt. 5:22; 13:42,50;
18:8, 9; 25:41; Mark 9:43,48; Luke 3:17>:

(f) of human hostility both to the Jews and to Christ's followers, <Luke 12:49>:

(g) as illustrative of retributive judgment upon the luxurious and tyrannical rich, <Jas.
(from Vine's Expository Dictionary of Biblical Words)
(Copyright (C) 1985, Thomas Nelson Publishers)

Judgment from the Sky

Judgment is the missing element here. It is this missing element that gives logic and the consistent pattern of a same but opposite pattern to the extrapolation of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The event that is taking place here is not a magic show but rather a phony judgment! I believe all of the above highlighted uses could be the fire that is coming down. This is in the context of a fake rapture, fake tribulation all leading up to a fake judgment. By these workings of miracles, the whole world is deceived and convinced to join in the agenda of these two ungodly agents from Hell. They do have an agenda, build the image of the beast, we will give it life. This again is a shared or joint effort of man and fallen angel to utilize the secrets of heaven, to imitate the power of God. And YES we have other scriptures to confirm this idea.

What it takes to "Reach into Heaven

There is a text in Daniel that is linked to Revelation 13:11 in the famous Treasury of Scripture Knowledge reference book as well as in many study Bibles . This is one of Daniel's visions regarding the end times. Some of this text is describing events soon to play out in his own time but then there is a change into far future events. It is in this part where we see some very strange events taking place. Years ago this thought could never even be imagined. The interpreters did the best they could with what they had but I believe a re-examination needs to happen here. We have two rules of interpretation ignored and broken in the attempt to make logic to the text. I have found in personal experience upon trying to share this scripture to some that it becomes too traumatic. This is a hard one to contemplate but nevertheless you cannot deny the rules and make it say something else without crossing over to an area of willful ignorance.

"And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them. "                                                 Dan 8:10 (KJV)

If I were to obey the rules of interpretation, this is what is being said here, plain and simple.

"And it developed greatly, even to the armies of heaven: and it cast down some of the army and of the princes (as angelic leaders of the armies) to the ground and stamped upon them."

I looked up in every commentary I had in every reference book to come my way and found a consistent pattern. Rather than staying true to what is being said here, All of the experts say this text is talking about the Temple servants and Priests. This text they say, is in reference to the desecration of the Temple and the killing of the attendants dwelling there. The problem with this is that nowhere else in the Bible are the terms host used for anything else other than military units. The word for stars, is used for literal suns in the heavens or symbolically, angels, specifically leading angels. However some state that there is one use in Daniel that refers to temple servants. That is the one we are discussing here. When you have only one reference without a cross reference anywhere else in the Bible, you are on thin ice. This is just plain wrong by any standard of any rule of interpretation. To further support such a spurious crossing over of proper boundaries is the fact that one assumption is based upon another. The word daily sacrifice was added in the context. There is no Hebrew, or Aramaic word of sacrifice. It was added in the assumption that the text was describing the daily sacrifice. The word for daily means that which is continual. We get our English word Continuum from this word and actually could refer to the space / time continuum.  And yes again there is a scripture to explain this.

The Antichrist would hope to change times and Laws in Daniel 7:2.

 "And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time."       Dan 7:2 (KJV)

Again Traditional understandings have been that this is the changing of social laws and holidays. When you see how these same words are used elsewhere, this idea does not hold up. Laws can mean any type of Law social or natural, but the Aramaic word Zeman, for times used in Daniel 7 is the same word used in Daniel 2 as seasons. Here in context, Daniel is proclaiming the majestic powers of God.

 Daniel answered and said, Blessed be the name of God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are his:
 And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:
 He revealeth the deep and secret things: he knoweth what is in the darkness, and the light dwelleth with him. Dan 2:20-22

The word zeman in both cases means fixed appointed times. in context here, Daniel is describing that it is God who controls linear time. The same linear time the Antichrist has a hopeful expectation to alter. The scripture continues that it will be given to him. This relates to our original text because in order to enter into God's heaven which is allowed by God, through the false prophet, you have to breach this linear time barrier. Time is the barrier which is the physical manifested separation between man and God. This is how there is a war in heaven with prisoners and such. Most Christians want to believe this is all on some spiritual never never land, other dimensional type of place which the Bible does not even address.  The Bible does give us some description of the difference of heaven and earth. In the parallel universe section all is explained in detail.
We have a couple more scriptures that sort of tie all of these together.

Messing with Space and Time to Create a Judgment from Heaven to Earth: False Prophet Continues On

The next text is commonly used by almost everyone to refer to a pre-Adamic fall of the Angels following Satan in his original rebellion. The Bible does not teach anything like a pre-Adamic fall. If there was anything at all before creation we are told in Ecclesiastics that it has been removed from memory. The Bible does teach that Satan's fall was in the Garden of Eden, in Ezekiel 28 th chapter. Satan's fall was in the Garden as God's super cop who was to protect and serve creation, but he tried to branch out and start his own private imitation for his own. This is part of the fall and will continue to be part of the fall until Satan is tossed into the Lake of Fire.

The book of Revelation is a book about future events. Nowhere in the entire book does God look back or has a review of things prior to the last day events beginning at Christ. This is a consistent pattern that does not have any multiple examples. There is one text of verse that everyone quotes in reference to this pre-Adamic fall of angels. This is so totally out of context with any established continuity in Revelation I do not know how this was ever accepted as being right or true. In context we are looking at the testimony of God through the ark of his testimony in the heavenly temple. The dragon is doing something with one third of the stars of heaven. These are angelic beings. Are they being seduced into following Satan? Is there anything indicating that this is when Satan received his followers in some kind of rebellion. No not at all, and the original language does not even come close to suggesting this. In spite of this, everyone thinks 1/3 of the angels in heaven rebelled with Satan to become his followers and rebellious Army.

 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth:  Rev 12:3,4 (KJV)

The great red dragon may be the symbolic image of Satan's entire kingdom. The seven heads , horns and crowns being elements of that empire. Our attention is drawn to the tail. This tail has drawn a third part of the stars of heaven and cast them to the earth. The first real problem here is the word Suro for drawn. If this text here, was meant to describe a compelling of followers Suro would certainly not have been used here. It means to capture or snare as with a net drawing up fish. This in no way is speaking about anything else other than the taking of prisoners. The smoking gun to this is to find out what is the tail of the dragon?

15 The ancient and honorable, he is the head; and the prophet that teaches lies, he is the TAIL. Isa 9:15 (emphasis mine)(KJV)

The tail of the dragon is none other than the false prophet. Not only does this bring us back full circle to the original text it confirms the perception that was claimed. All of these things happened to win over and convince the population of earth to create this image of the beast. Then this false prophet  will step in and do his part to bring it to life. The finished product, in turn, are given charge over the population. This concept agrees with other scriptures.

The Agenda of the False Prophet: If you build it, I will give it life

"But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things. Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain."  Dan 11:38-39 (KJV)

We have already seen this text of scripture and how it could relate to a mining of genetic resources for creating a shell. This also brings us to a full circle back to the image of the beast. The common theme is the fact that this is the object developed yet worshiped as a god. Strange god actually means alien god, in the sense of something unknown or foreign. This object of worship is to receive glory and to rule over the people. If you notice we also are not talking of a single god when the text clearly says he will give them charge over many. With the plural use, the entities spoken of here must be the same mentioned in Revelation 13.

The image of the beast in context to the history already mentioned would be the tall blond hair, blue eyed Aryan. Hitler as the Antichrist was quoted as saying the Aryan would be the object of worship. New Agers and Catholics and others in the church,  today have a form of Angel worship. Did you ever notice (excluding today's political correctness movement) that all through the centuries angels were always depicted as Caucasian, with blue eyes and fair hair. The UFO community compare the "Nordic" type alien to the Biblical angels. There are traces throughout history of an intervention by White masters, brothers and gods that came from the heavens and gave mankind technology and a form of Theosophical religious beliefs. This is their " glory" and fame and preparation for global acceptance. Washington's vision declares that "white spirits" from the heavens deliver America from a multinational invasion. The preparations have been made the opportune moment awaits for their intervention.

Image of the Beast: The Real Army of Darkness

Truly this is an end time Army of Darkness from hell. When you take a look at what the prophet Joel saw as the coming invasion of locusts (symbolic of nations outside of God's providence) and crossed referenced with the locusts ascending out of the "pit" this all becomes apparent. Again I have used some other grammatically correct variables to bring out a more relative 21st century meaning. First I will give the KJV version and below it will be my own rendering.

Joel 2:1-10
1 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;
2 A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.
3 A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.
4 The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run.
5 Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble, as a strong people set in battle array.
6 Before their face the people shall be much pained: all faces shall gather blackness.
7 They shall run like mighty men; they shall climb the wall like men of war; and they shall march every one on his ways, and they shall not break their ranks:
8 Neither shall one thrust another; they shall walk every one in his path: and when they fall upon the sword, they shall not be wounded.
9 They shall run to and fro in the city; they shall run upon the wall, they shall climb up upon the houses; they shall enter in at the windows like a thief.
10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:

 Joel 2:1-11
 “A day of ignorance and concealment, a day of practiced magic and the lowering of
high things, as the dawn spreads out upon the mountains, a huge abundant
 mighty people come into existence that has never been before and shall
never be after. A fire (or judgment) consumes before them and behind them a sword
blade kindles, The land is as the garden of Eden before them and behind them a
desolate wilderness. Yes and nothing shall escape them. The appearance of them is
as the appearance of horses and as horseman so shall they run. Like the noise of
chariots on top of mountains, so shall they leap like the noise of a flame of fire that
devours the stubble, as a strong people set in battle array. Before their face the
people shall be much pained, all faces shall gather a flushed anxiety. They shall climb
the wall like men of war and they shall march every one on his way, and they shall
not break ranks, Neither shall one thrust another, they shall walk everyone in his
shall run to and fro in the city, they shall run upon the wall, they shall climb up upon
the houses, they shall enter in at the windows like a thief (abductions?) The earth
shall quake before them the heavens shall tremble, the sun and the moon shall be
dark and the stars shall withdraw their shining.”. UJWV

From spirit to a supernatural physical being: Genetic Tampering

This army of darkness is the disembodied half human half fallen angelic offspring we call demons today. It was prophesized that they would be mustered up as an end time army for their total destruction. Jesus himself announced this to the fallen angelic parents and their offspring when he descended into hell.

 In the 26th chapter of Isaiah, a series of promises and judgments are given for God’s people and the
nations around them. Included in this is the mention of the rapha, which are the "ghosts of the Giants".
Their fate is set and they will not be a part of the resurrection. But then they are "visited". This word signifies
something of an intervention or alteration of a natural process. This same word is used when Sarah was
visited in her old age and conceived Isaac. Gen 21:1. Something supernatural is going on here. Let’s look
at the text.

"Oh Lord our God, other lords beside thee have had dominion over us: (better rendered:
married unto us) but by thee only will we make mention of thy name. They are dead, they
shall not live; they are deceased, (rapha) they shall not rise: therefore thou visited and
destroyed them, and made their memory to perish. " Isaiah 26:13,14


As it is with many prophetic scriptures, this jumps from the present condition, (They are dead and shall not rise) an action taking place, (you will be visited) and then the eventual demise with even their memory erased. This obviously has not yet happened, but it is spoken in the past tense. Understanding events from God’s perspective, it has already happened. For us in a linear time frame it is still a future event.
The word Paqad for “visited”, has a very wide meaning, the most common use is that of “drawing or
mustering up an army”. The second one as mentioned, is the “supernatural intervention of the natural
course of events”. I believe the meaning here is twofold. It is a divine intervention of a normal process to
allow for a resurrection of these giants, the angels that sinned and their offspring for the express purpose
to be mustered up as an army to their final destruction. There is also the strong emphasis that this action
is under control and part of God’s plan. Other scriptures can confirm this two-fold definition.

"For Christ also once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to
God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened in the Spirit: By which He went and
Preached unto the spirits in prison; which sometimes were disobedient, when the
longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein
few, that is eight souls were saved by water.” 1Peter 3:18-20

The word for preached, does not mean that Jesus went and proclaimed the gospel to anyone. This word
without a definer simply means he made a proclamation about something. Also the spirits in prison were not
departed human souls but spirit beings. When the word is used without a modifier, it refers only to spirit
beings. This event then could be the visitation and the proclamation mentioned in Isaiah 26. After the
fulfillment of the law and His death as a sacrifice, Jesus could announce to the spirits who tried to prevent
His incarnation, a new set of conditions and terms that He would deal with them on. They would be set loose,
(resurrected as an army) but only to fulfill God’s will for the judgment of total annihilation so that even their
memory would be erased.

 The book of Job further mentions this process as being "repaired".

"Dead things are formed under the waters, and the inhabitants thereof. Hell is naked before him, and destruction hath no covering." Job 26:5,6

Commentators have suggested that this is a description of the creation of whales or other large marine
life forms. I do not believe when digging deeper into the original language this bears out.
"Dead things." - Rapha again is used here meaning ghosts, the deceased.
"Are formed" - This is most interesting. Chuwl a combined meaning, is “a twisting or whirling manner in
a circular or spiraling pattern” . A double helix coil? The genetic pattern or model of DNA? It also has the idea
of “bringing forth”, as in birthing or perverting the process and the pains of birth. In all of this it is not too
hard to consider something genetic and manipulative is going on, not by the Creator but by the imitator.
"From under the waters" - where is this happening? Ocean depths or subterranean? This is happening
within the waters as opposed to the surface or below the ocean at the opening of the subterranean realm.
"And the inhabitants thereof" - In most all KJV study Bibles, this is footnoted as better rendered, "with
the inhabitants thereof." This could be describing the joint effort to resurrect these ghosts through genetic
manipulation by a human /Antichrist/False prophet and fallen angelic alliance. This corresponds with the rest of Job 26:vs 6. It is in this context that clearly the above description is speaking of activity going on in the subterranean realm.
"Hell is naked before him" Can only mean that God sees everything that is happening.
"Destruction has no covering" They believe that they are secretly accomplishing their goals, yet from
God’s perspective he sees their creative powers as only destruction which is not concealed. This is all part
of God’s plan. They can run but they cannot hide, they have a destiny to fulfill that they do not believe will
happen. Death at the Battle of Armageddon in the Valley of Miggido Israel is that destiny and their eventual fate!

 Judgment is coming but they don't believe it or see it coming.

" He swalloweth the ground with fierceness and rage: neither believeth he that it is the sound of the trumpet.
 He saith among the trumpets, Ha, ha; and he smelleth the battle afar off, the thunder of the captains, and the shouting."
Job 39:24-25

Beyond Science Fiction Indeed!

I think from all of this you could say that if it looks like a duck and acts like a duck and all the evidence says it is a duck well, it is probably a duck.

I realize that this is certainly way out of the box of mainstream thought and acceptance, but and this is a really big BUT, it has more scriptural backing and support than any other accepted Christian myth.

Speaking of Big Christian Myths let's look at the Two Witness and some wild thoughts attached to these two guys.












 Then I answered and said to him, "What are these two olive trees-- at the right of the lampstand and at its left?" And I further answered and said to him, "What are these two olive branches that drip into the receptacles of the two gold pipes from which the golden oil drains?"  Then he answered me and said, "Do you not know what these are?" And I said, "No, my lord."  So he said, "These are the two anointed ones, who stand beside the Lord of the whole earth."  Zech 4:11-14 (NKJ)

There seems to be more controversy, myths, legends and unsupported speculation attached to the identity of the Two Witnesses than there is about the Antichrist or False Prophet.

Literal People or Figurative

Preterism is a doctrine that some hold whereby they believe all or most all of prophecy was fulfilled in the first century. Personally I think many events have been fulfilled in the past but to think that all of it is, seems a bit dangerous and illogical. If everything prophetic is already past where is the hope and defense for what is yet to come? Does this mean that everything now is learned by types and examples from the past. If everything happening in our continued history, is a result of spiritual warfare as the Bible indicates, wouldn't God through his word, continue to have warnings for all times right up to the very end? I do not think God would leave a gap to the most important time in our history at the culmination and fruition of Satan's plan of deception toward mankind at the very end. That is illogical to the greatest example.  I believe Daniel was told this by the angel when he was told that the things he was shown was for that later time. Prophecy would be like a time capsule, bits and pieces would be revealed as we needed to know them. If you believe everything is finished what are you waiting for now? A New Age? I hope you can see the danger of thinking in that way. You will defiantly be caught off guard if you do.

 Preterists try to make the two witness not even individual people. They say it is Israel and the Church or the Old and New Testaments. They give quite a lengthy intellectually well thought out and well presented interpretation.  However I  think most of it is an intellectual smokescreen. Anything that difficult has to be more man and less God. It still leaves more gaps and questions that cannot be addressed by this kind of thinking. The original languages leave us with no other realization that while there are good lessons to be gleaned from the Preterist perspective, we are still dealing with two real people who have yet to make their appearance.

Doctrine about Who They Are

The most common ideas about the two witnesses made popular by many books and movies, is that the Two Witnesses are Enoch and Elijah from the Old Testament. The logic behind this thought is that these are two people recorded in the Bible that experienced no death. Elijah was taken into heaven by a chariot of fire. ( 2Kings 2:11) Enoch was taken by God (Genesis 5:24)  Another thought included the possibility that one of the Two witnesses might include Moses. The logic behind this is taken from the transfiguration of the Mt. (Matt 17:3) The thought is that Moses and Elijah were two witnesses at Christ's transfiguration. Moses representing those who passed on in natural death and Elijah a type of those transformed as passing on as others will in the rapture of the Church. Another hint is that the supernatural judgments put upon the earth by these two witnesses are the same Moses put upon Egypt. Another logical reason for Enoch to be excluded from the two in some peoples thinking, is the fact that Enoch was not Jewish. His life and ministry was long before Abraham and the Nation of Israel was ever established. Logical perhaps, scriptural absolutely not. There are some problems with this kind of logical thinking and speculation.

First off, show me anywhere in the Bible where the Two witnesses have to be Jewish. This is purely speculation because you will not find this prerequisite anywhere. It is a guess without any Biblical support and nothing more. Second, the idea of Moses being brought back to life as a mortal to die once again centuries after his death, comes way to close to occult magic than anything recognizable in the scriptures. It crosses a line that I do not think any Bible believing person should venture toward unless you can find chapter, text and verse to prove or support the idea.. 

" And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:  Heb 9:27  (KJV)

This is a spiritual Law that is consistently followed throughout the Bible, New and Old Testaments. While it is true that Elijah, Jesus and the disciples were used to raise dead people back to life, these were people who were still organically together as their deaths were relatively close in time to their resurrection. The Bible records nothing beyond three days if that might mean anything or not I think it is an important detail that cannot be ignored. There are no records or accounts of resurrecting the dead from dust or bones to a living person beyond a visionary experience.

Moses died and to have him return centuries later, back to a mortal human body does not seem to be something that could be accomplished without breaking God's natural order of things. It can be said that God can do anything he wants because He is God but He is also immutable, He will not change or go against and break his own laws. he may tweak and bend them as he sees fit, but in those cases,  he clearly states that he will and why. We have several examples of that when he allowed Sarah to give birth beyond the natural ability, and to the disembodied spirits in Sheol who are dead and would not be raised, but he has visited them, means he will allow them to be raised to their destruction. Who is being raised are something part angelic and immortal and not normal human beings. Moses being brought back to a mortal life centuries after his death is an idea that is outside of any Biblical support and one that crosses a line to pure speculation with no foundation. The debate is less proving if God would or could do such a thing and more of where is an example, allusion or any known method of Biblical interpretation that offers substance to that belief as a doctrine. There just isn't. The end result of such speculation and acceptance by learned scholars, clergy and Bible teachers, opens the door of imagination for lay people to contemplate other very unsound ideas like re-incarnation and returning ghosts of the dead.      

As much logical evidence we might see in types and shadows about the two witnesses being the remaining two Old Testament Prophets, there are a couple of scriptures that also become obstacles that have to be accounted for.         Even the surface rendering should have alerted someone to consider or question this long held doctrine about the two Witnesses. When digging deeper in the original languages, we have confirmed evidence that becomes a serious problem that could completely negate the idea of any three of these Old Testament saints as being the people who will return from heaven to be the Two Witnesses.

"Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,  In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."  1 Cor 15:50-52 (KJV)

We have a contrast here in this text that cannot be ignored. This goes beyond the surface rendering that, in it's simplicity, is telling us that our present form of flesh and blood cannot receive the eternal state of existence. The context of this text is also telling us the difference between the two conditions. Understanding this, we are dealing with both the physical and spiritual. This however gives us a big problem with the Enoch and Elijah ideas.

There are two words that have been combined for the meaning cannot in English . One means no in any form as an absolute NO and the other means ability in several manners. It is in these two words, that we get a bigger picture here. This is a text setting up a rule or Law about space/time and the human frailty of entering the eternal state from the earthly linear one. The indication in any way that this word could mean, either by law or natural inability, the human flesh and blood body was not made strong enough to even enter the eternal realm. Here is the actual meaning of the last word for cannot: ABILITY, ABLE

1. dunamai ^1410^, "to be able, to have power," whether by virtue of one's own ability and resources, e. g., <Rom. 15:14>; or through a state of mind, or through favorable circumstances, e. g., <1 Thes. 2:6>; or by permission of law or custom, e. g., <Acts 24:8,11>; or simply "to be able, powerful," <Matt. 3:9; 2 Tim.
(from Vine's Expository Dictionary of Biblical Words)
(Copyright (C) 1985, Thomas Nelson Publishers)

Now that doesn't mean things stay that way. I believe that through Satan and forbidden occult knowledge, this ability was given to mankind from lawbreakers. It is what they do. My point here is that this is something established by God as a barrier not intended to be crossed. It will eventually, but as an act of rebellion not by permission with God's grace upon it. This barrier and human inability becomes the problem for Enoch and Elijah's return to be the Two Witnesses.

If Enoch and Elijah were both translated before they were taken to heaven, that means they had to have taken on the immortal spiritual bodies that will never die or be subject to death. That being the case, how then are these two returned to the earth to die a mortal life. There is a real Biblical problem with that thinking in contrast to the scriptures I have just shown you. This conflict of scripture should cast some serious doubt to this doctrine.  That however is not the case, it is expected or even demanded that two of these three possibilities are the only option that is available. It has always been taught that way by the church for centuries, but that does not make it right.


The Bible says that Enoch was translated or changed before he ascended into heaven. Where this is not mentioned about Elijah, the prerequisites are laid out by Paul in the Bible as we have already viewed. It therefore is established that he had to transformed.

" By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God
." Heb 11:5(KJV)

Clearly there is a serious problem revealed by nothing but the scriptures themselves, that the doctrine of the Two witnesses as translated Old Testament Prophets just does not work .

So What Other Option is There?

It was prophesized by Malachi that before the Messiah would come, Elijah would come and prepare the way before him. People had great expectations and looked for a super hero. Others were assumed to be with Elijah so the expectations were high just as the myths today are for the two witnesses. In context, verses 7-11 describe this problem of expectations. and Jesus pointed out the realities of what they found in contrast.  Here is what Jesus said about their expectations and what the truth was regarding John the Baptist.

 "For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.  Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.
 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.  For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.  He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.                      Matt 11:10-15 (KJV)


The commentary from Barn's notes says it best and I will quote it here

Matthew 11:14

And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.

[If ye will receive it] This is a mode of speaking implying that the doctrine which he was about to state was different from their common views; that he was about to state something which varied from the common expectation, and which therefore they might be disposed to reject.
[This is Elias ...] That is, "Elijah." Elias is the "Greek" mode of writing the Hebrew word "Elijah." An account of him is found in the first and second books of Kings. He was a distinguished prophet, and was taken up to heaven in a chariot of fire, <2 Kings 2:11>. The prophet Malachi <Mal. 4:5-6> predicted that "Elijah" would be sent before the coming of the Messiah to prepare the way for him. By this was evidently meant, not that he should appear "in person," but that one should appear with a striking resemblance to him; or, as Luke <Luke 1:17> expresses it, "in the spirit and power of Elijah." But the Jews understood it differently. They supposed that Elijah would appear in person. They also supposed that Jeremiah and some other of the prophets would appear also to usher in the promised Messiah and to grace his advent. See <Matt. 16:14; 17:10; John 1:21>. This prevalent belief was the reason why he used the words "if ye will receive it," implying that the affirmation that "John" was the promised Elijah was a doctrine contrary to their expectation.

Matthew 11:15

He that hath ears to hear, let him hear

[He that hath ears ...] This expression is frequently used by Christ. It is a proverbial expression, implying that the highest attention should be given to what was spoken. The doctrine about John he regarded as of the greatest importance. He among you, says he, that has the faculty of understanding this, or that will believe that this is the Elijah spoken of, let him attend to it and remember it.
(from Barnes' Notes)

Jesus set the precedence for the perfect example of what we should expect concerning the Two Witnesses.              Because of the scriptural problems I have shown with the current doctrines about the Two Witnesses, the same unrealistic expectations now exist that existed in the time of Christ. The words from the Lords own mouth become the pattern under these same conditions that would be repeated in our time concerning the Two Witnesses, as well as other assumptions about end time events.

Who and what people are expecting and what will actually appear will be so different, hardly anyone will even recognize them until late in their public ministry. Until that time, they will have the same problems of rejection and ridicule that all the prophets before them experienced and probably even more. This will come as before, not only from the unbelieving world, it will come from within the church also. How can this be you might ask? The Church would hold these two in high esteem, they would honor and respect their ministry. I say no, it won't happen that way, it never has and never will because human nature and social orders have not changed, and the even the church has made the same mistakes that the Jews made in the past.

When these poor guys first appear they will not be accepted by hardly anyone . The commonly accepted traditional ideas, have made a deep impression on almost every Christian today. Everyone is looking for two super heroes, Old Testament Prophets, some say they have to be Jewish, others say they have to be ones who never died. The image is they will stand out, being dressed in their original Robes sandals and garb from the ancient times, they will impose all of the judgments that Moses and other prophets have performed including shooting fire out of their mouths killing those who defy them. Some of these myths sound more like a fantasy epic like Lord of the Rings. And that would be ok if you could prove it by scripture.  So first let's look at the ideas and then let's see how they do not line up with the Word of God when you go beyond the surface translations.

Revelation 11Verses 3-12 tells us the entire story of the Two Witnesses. verse by verse let's look at them carefully and using only the Word of God let's see if we can separate myth from Biblical truth.

" And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth." Rev 11:3 (KJV)

One of the first amazing things of this verse is the fact that there is no original Greek word for Power. It was added on as an assumption that this must be what is given to the two witnesses by God because they perform the miraculous judgments upon the earth and people as they will. I was expecting to find the Greek word Dunamis for power as it means the supernatural power of God. It is not there and you would expect it to be there if that was the intension. I must confess it is a bit presumptuous to just add a word in here because it makes more sense or is easier to read. It could be very misleading and perhaps not even the intension of the writer at all. When such a blank is drawn, the next step should have been in the words before and after checking their etymology to get a feeling of contextual use. This is not necessarily conclusive but safer and closer to the meaning that what was assumed.

 When looking here there is a faint indication of something else. The words I will give and unto my,  give us a clue what the context might be trying to say. 1325 didomi is the word used for I will give, it can mean to give forth from oneself. The other word has an unusual development. It is an extension- me, from a derivative- my own, from a base that means -toil with difficulty or sadness. This definition reminds me of what Jesus said

"Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke
upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your
souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light." Matt 11:28-30 (KJV)

What the Lord is giving these two is a burden, His burden and a task, His task, it will be hard and it will be sad but by His grace it will be doable. When I was looking this up for the first time in 1997, I was shocked at what I had found . The Bible will always define itself by itself so there is a scripture that defines this grief and sorrow in relation to God's Word.

" For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow."  Ecclesiates 1:18

Like a flood of sudden knowledge it all began to make sense. These two are proclaiming something a bit new and a bit different to everyone and no one is believing them. The peoples expectations are no different than when John the Baptist came on the scene before our Lord fist earthly ministry. They are explaining and sorting out the confusion during a time of confusion and deception. They perhaps are the only ones who actually know in detail what is coming ahead and what is going on now. Can things really be that confusing. Yes they can and the ministry I have, has shown me just a glimpse of what these two poor guys are going to go through. To have the wisdom and knowledge they will have, will as this verse says, bring the grief and sorrow.
This thought is consistent with the rest of the context. Doing the math, they will have three and a half years of this. They have the same mental/spiritual attitude as the prophets before them had.

 Are they wearing sack cloth or is this a figurative meaning. The garment in ancient times was that of a coarse wool we call sackcloth. It was a material used to make sacks and for mourning as a sign of humility. Prophets also used this to indicate their humility in their ministry as a prophet. At times they would wear the attire when fasting and mourning. They would also rub ash on their faces to make this public proclamation. This extreme demonstrative action was necessary in the Old Testament times as they did not have the backing of the Holy Spirit working in peoples lives as is the case today. Paul in admonishing new believers told them to freshen up and not let their fasting be made know to others. This was the new testament directive which can be applied to all believers in the New Testament times. A cultural term of sackcloth and ashes meant that someone was fasting and praying for something. There are two possibilities here and by context I  think we can be certain that a New Testament application would be  part of the changes Christ's accomplished earthly ministry for today created.  These two are either literally going to wear the Old Testament garments of the ancient prophets or, they will come with a countenance and manner of humility and brokenness, with a burden of one who is fasting and praying for a lost world quickly going to hell in a hand basket. I really believe the attitude and mannerism is stressed more here than apparel, especially since we have a directive from Paul how not to act in New Testament times.

" And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed." Rev 11:5 (KJV)

You can have the faith to believe that this text is telling us that the two witnesses are gong to be human flame throwers but believe me there truly is another way to look at this. The fire that proceeds out of their mouths is the same word used for the fire that came down from heaven by the False Prophet. In other words this can also mean judgment. What proceeds out of the mouth is judgment. This judgment is in the form of God's Word which is like a fire. Again we have a text of scripture that tells us this exact thought.

 Medieval painting of Two Witnesses and beast from the pit that makes war with them  (Notice the same O.T. superhero image)

"Is not my word like as a fire? saith the LORD; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces?"             Jer 23:29 (KJV)

In the context of Jeremiah's comparison, he is talking about God's Word opposing false prophets, dreamer of dreams and liars of the truth. This could accurately describe the same type of people that the Two Witnesses will come up against with the New Age System. Their destruction is not so much the physical individual, but their lies and bearing witness to false doctrines of this New Religion and New World Order which these enemies are promoting to the world.

 " For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart."        Heb 4:12 (KJV)

Their ministry is one of conducting a war against these false prophets and the liars which are deceiving the world at their hands. They are doing what the Lord did against Satan when he tempted Jesus in the Wilderness. By quoting the Word of God back, and having a logical Biblical answer for everything, they completely destroy their ability to continue without question or challenge. Like a fire it consumes the strength of these lies to the point of oblivion. Any plots to make them stop only come back on them. This is also in accordance to Jewish Law which stated that the attempt to lie and deceive against a witness testifying to the truth would be judged with the reverse effect according to their plot and desired ends. They are not left alone or only in their natural strength, but are truly given a supernatural power of the Holy Spirit to exercise authority over natural elements at will.

" These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will."  Rev 11:6 (KJV)

This is why when they are killed, people rejoice and exchange gifts. It is more than a coincidence that four people come on the scene at around the same time and have an assumed 31/2 years  job to do. The two Witnesses appear around the same time that the Antichrist and False Prophet appear. In the same but opposite pattern, it may be that two camps of two different seeds, will view the exact opposite of what is going on. The Lord's people will see everyone for who they really are. However those not written in the book of life might see everything in a complete reverse manner. In other words, The Two Witnesses will look like the Antichrist and False Prophet, while the Antichrist and False Prophet will look to them to be the Two Witnesses. With the background scenario of a fake rapture, fake tribulation and fake judgment, things can be very confusing. Who is Who? only the Holy Spirit and those led by Him will know for sure.

Like it or not, I believe by the Word of God alone, it is pretty conclusive that No one from the Old Testament times, is coming back as two fire breathing superheroes dressed in ancient garb and joyfully accepted and easily identified. To quote from a zany pop song from the 80's. "It's the same as it ever was." The conditions from our past and all throughout history has been unchanging. We become blinded to this reality by our human nature and earthly tendencies to seek out higher expectations, demanding credentials and proof of authenticity based not on patterns used in God's Word but by the demands of human society.    We are impressed  by education and degrees, looks and popularity, and the safety of large numbers.


" For you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called.
 But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty;  and the base things of the world and the things which are despised God has chosen, and the things which are not, to bring to nothing the things that are,  that no flesh should glory in His presence.  But of Him you are in Christ Jesus, who became for us wisdom from God-- and righteousness and sanctification and redemption--  that, as it is written, "He who glories, let him glory in the Lord." 1 Cor 1:26-31 (NKJ)